Crush...Yiff...Destroy!

Mastertran · Apocrisiary Joined: 07 Oct 2004 Posts: 48

Hi everyone long time lurker first time poster. And I was wondering would anyone be interested in commenting on Earl Bacon's Cassie the Rock and Roll Vixen stories. I mean there's worse and more gross furry stories on line but rarely more inane and pointless. So tell me what you guys think. :twisted: ~Master Tran

Mastertran · Apocrisiary Joined: 07 Oct 2004 Posts: 48

I forgot the link with the last post here it is.
http://www.cassietherockvixen.furtopia.org/

You guys have to read the stories where vampires start a war with the band...great bizzarre stuff. :D I like stories~Master Tran

creature · Venter Joined: 06 Nov 2003 Posts: 221

Why am I reminded of Jem and the Holograms?

ZenZhu · Needs to get out more Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 897

In furry art, I can overlook a lot. After all, most of the stuff we're dealing with is cartoony. Heavy fur pelts somehow still allow nipples, toenails, and other crap usually obscured by the fur to be shown, depending on the artist in question. Theoretically, to show tits looking like most furry artists draw them, the nipples and areolae would have to some how magically hover right over the fur.... like taking the nipples off of baby bottles and just gluing them onto the character's boobs.

But, it's cartoony. Suspension of disbelief and all. I can live with that. Maybe I'm just becoming too much of a literal-minded hardass in the continual parade of furry stuff, but this page has silk stockings aplenty on it................... let's think about this.... trying to drag a stocking against the grain, so to speak, of the direction the fur grows. That's just kind of one of those things that's a little too nonsensical to even overlook with suspension of disbelief. For starters, you're going to have the stockings mat down the fur to cling to the shape of the leg beneath...... leaving these poofs of fur sticking up over the things like pantaloons. You're also likely to have the fur matted down into all sorts of cowlicks and stuff, since pulling the stockings upwards would screw up the natural fall of the fur..... like having hat hair all over your legs. Finally, some of the fur would probably be poking out through the silk mesh, much like pulling pantyhose over a cactus.

I dunno.. just one of those things that, after seeing so much of it, finally clicked and made my brain say, "Hey.... that's stupid."

Mastertran · Apocrisiary Joined: 07 Oct 2004 Posts: 48

Really though the vampires are the best part.

Jamboody · Recusant Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Posts: 10

Pictures like this always throw me for a loop.

*edit*

Ohoho!

The author found out that we were talking about her site! CYD are teh bullies!

Personally this isn't even much of an "attack" thread since there have been few responses. Nothing close to those TLK german scat unbirthing pictures that were featured here a while back.

weird_guy_in_the_corner · Rasophore Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 64

Bully for us being (somewhat) sane individuals. This is from someone named "dennisthetiger":

The answer is simple yet complex in its simplicity, and multifaceted to boot.

Wait, what? "The answer is simple yet complex in its simplicity?"

The short short version - they're pedants

Translation: I don't feel like defending my position, so I'll just call you ostentatious and formal.

The big factor is that to the CYD people this sort of activity is familar, ergo comfortable. An abusive or bully situation as it were.

Who the hell says "ergo" anymore? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?

They somehow feel inadequate to what they despise, so it nust be destroyed.

Yeah, I feel real inadequate compared to someone named "dennisthetiger".

Now consider that their slogan states that they feel that to save the fandom it needs to be destroyed.

Didn't you just say that?

Now consider this - the 'net, IMHO, has brought us much more exposure than we may be ready for. Read this post, particularly the last three or four paragraphs, for my thoughts on this.

I read the post all right. I couldn't read the whole post because it was the most fucking boring thing I have ever read. Part of it details on how to make a rump roast, and a lot of it is technical jargon that put me to sleep faster than a shotgun blast to the head. He also uses words like "monotheistic", "inclement", and "quixotically". Again, do people use these words nowadays?

This applies, I think, largely because of the fact that drama queens and gossips previously had no real outlet other than the neighbors who would give them an ear. With the 'net, they now have a captive audience, and will invariably attract more of the same.

What, like furries?

I suppose in the end it boils down to one thing - they don't like what they see because it doesn't apply to their standards that they see as safe despite being (mostly) harmless, and therefore it should not exist.

See above statement.

Just my $.02.

Fine, but $.02 doesn't buy anything these days.

m_estrugo · Venter Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 222

Ohoho!

The author found out that we were talking about her site! CYD are teh bullies!

It's funny to see CYD's purpose to be misinterpreted time after time. :)

...their slogan states that they feel that to save the fandom it needs to be destroyed.

Theeeeere we go again.

MagKnightX · Venter Joined: 04 Dec 2003 Posts: 286

They somehow feel inadequate to what they despise, so it must be destroyed.

MY E-PEENIS IS BIGGAR THEN YUORS

weird_guy_in_the_corner · Rasophore Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 64

See my above post. It just seems like dennisthetiger suffers from the whole "I use big words and complex sentence structures so I'm better than you" disease.

Mitch · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 362

...their slogan states that they feel that to save the fandom it needs to be destroyed.

Theeeeere we go again.

Meh. Nobody EVER gets that damned quote or realizes where it's lifted from.

Clue: I LOVE THE SMELL OF BURNING FUR IN THE MORNING, IT SMELLS LIKE... DRAMA

Rankin · Needs to get out more Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 891

Meh. Nobody EVER gets that damned quote or realizes where it's lifted from.

Clue: I LOVE THE SMELL OF BURNING FUR IN THE MORNING, IT SMELLS LIKE... DRAMA

GOOD MORNING FURRYMUCK? no.

FULL RABBIT-FUR JACKET? NO!

FUROPALIPSE NOW!

MagKnightX · Venter Joined: 04 Dec 2003 Posts: 286

The big factor is that to the CYD people this sort of activity is familar, ergo comfortable. An abusive or bully situation as it were.

Who the hell says "ergo" anymore? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?

I used to use it all the time... in fucking FORMAL PAPERS. This guy needs to put down the thesaurus.

m_estrugo · Venter Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 222

...their slogan states that they feel that to save the fandom it needs to be destroyed.

Theeeeere we go again.

Meh. Nobody EVER gets that damned quote or realizes where it's lifted from.

Clue: I LOVE THE SMELL OF BURNING FUR IN THE MORNING, IT SMELLS LIKE... DRAMA

I think it's a reference to a thing General William C. Westmoreland, commander in chief of the US forces in Vietnam between 1967-68 once said. I'm not sure if he referred to the re-taking of Hue after the Tet offensive in February, 1968.

Let me do a search.

Oh, here it is. Wow, I was close. :)

Wayd Wolf · Vociferator Joined: 06 Oct 2003 Posts: 563

...their slogan states that they feel that to save the fandom it needs to be destroyed.

Theeeeere we go again.

Meh. Nobody EVER gets that damned quote or realizes where it's lifted from.

Clue: I LOVE THE SMELL OF BURNING FUR IN THE MORNING, IT SMELLS LIKE... DRAMA

Was that the only real recognizable thing from that flick? I thought they did a good number on it in Animaniacs and caught some of the other idiosyncracies but there's not a lot to feed one lines but that napalm line.

ZenZhu · Needs to get out more Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 897

Oh,I'm well aware that their answer to create a new fur paradise is via a "scorched earth" policy.What I find fascinating is that Cassie would even register on their radar screen,since she falls withtin their own self procliamed guidlies of what's "acceptible" in both furry art and story mattter.

Well, the mutt gets demerits for confusing CYD with the burned furs. I would guess he's building on dennisthetiger's (I'm a powerful tiger.. RAWR! Tee hee!) misinterpretation of the quote that CHANGES EVERY TIME YOU VISIT THE PAGE KITTY KITTY with CYD's "mission statement." If they actually bothered to look through the page, they'd probably see most have given up the fool's errand of trying to save the fandom.

The mutt also gets an "E" for "effort," but still bonus demerits for trying to use his concept of what the CYD crowd finds "acceptable" in terms of furry art. Honestly, they must have only looked at this thread... otherwise they'd know that simply mentioning a comic, let alone comparing it to some campy 80's cartoon or, for my part, discussing in general how the concept of nylon stockings on a furred creature is, really, kind of dumb when you take away cartoony suspension of disbelief hardly constitutes any kind of bashing. Compared to "Better Days" or such, Cassie is hardly even a blip in the CYD radar.

I suppose in the end it boils down to one thing - they don't like what they see because it doesn't apply to their standards that they see as safe despite being (mostly) harmless, and therefore it should not exist.

Did someone here suggest the comic should be abolished.... anyone.... anyone..... ? Hmm... who's projecting what here?

Just my $.02.

Hold out yer hand, kid. You've got change coming. Too bad for $0.02 these days, you can buy yourself a little airtime on the web*, but you can't buy a clue.

* It's funny how in attempting to suggest CYD is just an outlet for people needing an audience, he's basically just exercising his own need for an audience. Between message boards and LiveJournal, really, LiveJournal seems like it's designed for nothing but folks wanting an audience so they can dish out how they hate their parents making them do chores or how someone in line at the grocery store cut them off. LiveJournal, by design, is basically for people who want to take what one might normally secret away in a diary and broadcast it to the masses like Rhinestone Cowboy on karaoke night.

Really, I think comparing some place like CYD to LiveJournal is like comparing a conversation someone overheard to a soapbox. With a message board system, the idea is usually people... often like-minded people.. discussing something they have in common, be it a love of furries, a hate of furries, enjoyment of cooking, botany, whatever. Folks like this tigerkittymewmewdennisguy just happened to "overhear our conversation" like you might overhear someone at the table next to you in a restaurant talking smack about some political figure.

LiveJournal is really more like people writing stuff for the sake of writing it and hoping someone will happen to read it and agree with them. So, I don't think any of the LJ crowd have the room to waggle fingers at any message board anywhere.

Gargoyle · Coadjutor Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 91

Clue: I LOVE THE SMELL OF BURNING FUR IN THE MORNING, IT SMELLS LIKE... DRAMA

I think it's a reference to a thing General William C. Westmoreland, commander in chief of the US forces in Vietnam between 1967-68 once said. I'm not sure if he referred to the re-taking of Hue after the Tet offensive in February, 1968.

Let me do a search.

Oh, here it is. Wow, I was close. :)

No. Not My Lai 5... of course.

Actually,

The Tet fighting also disillusioned an influential segment of the American press, notably Walter Cronkite, a respected television newsman, who visited South Vietnam as the Tet Offensive ended. He reported that the urban destruction caused by the counterattacking American and South Vietnamese forces made a mockery of the publicized objective of building a South Vietnamese nation. As if to dramatize the contradiction between building and destroying, an anonymous Army officer, justifying the bombing of enemy-occupied Ben Tre, declared that "it was necessary to destroy the village in order to save it."

Mastertran · Apocrisiary Joined: 07 Oct 2004 Posts: 48

I also really don't have anything againist these guys either. The only thing I really hate is that the stories tend to meander and cover the same bases over and over again. Human and fox lad make the sign of the humped back weasel every day, Leopard lady is a drunk, punk wolf lady is nervous, Artic fox lady is manic, Southern fox is a hick, and goth deer lady is a goth but a happy one. That bugs me. Oh also there's even a hint of micro in the pages the Wolf punk I think her name is Laretta is dating a antro mouse the size of, well a mouse. Also I used ergo five times in my life all right after seeing the second Matrix movie and thinking that it made me look smart.